Angle of attack, club speed, path, club face. You just have to be fit correctly and learn how to deliver the club better to the ball, and i shoot low 70s and i hit the ball 245 yards with ZERO roll in Thailand so it can be done. As far as a Trackman goes.I've used it once. They must get club speed confused with ball speed, Cough Some people may exaggerate slightly , Hi My ball speed is with driver 195 km/h AND 160 km/h with a 6 iron Schaft = rgular or ???? why you did not work that out or your friends did not suggest it I dont know. Add That Little Extra Limited also participates in other affiliate programs with FlexOffers, CJ, Svorn and other sites and is compensated for referring traffic and business to these companies (again at no cost to you). [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364403832' post='6707431'] The difference in a good amateur player and a touring professional is typically going to be short game, endurance, and that space between the ears. The performance of these wedges really was impressive. Of course, playing shorter courses seems very obvious if you want to improve performance. Thomas breakout season came in 2016-17 with five of his PGA TOUR wins, including the PGA Championship, 12 top 10 finishes and, ultimately, the FedEx Championship. This is the site where we share everything we've learned. Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide, What Wedges Do the Pros Use? And that was 12 years ago. I have a terrible slice that knocks A LOT of yards off of my drive. Sometimes I will hit a 270 once or twice a round maybe and then two or three more at 240, but I will mix in a few bad ones at 190 with a hook or a slice and the rest will be at least 215 to 220. Golf Concepts - This is Justin Thomas TrackMan Numbers. Brooks Koepka, winner of the US Open 2017 and 2018 - TrackMan Granted, their handicaps are high, but it gives a lot of support to what Mr. Pelz has been telling us all these years. I already use the SM8s and having seen the drop off in spin and different performance of my swing (I am less steep at impact these days) I will be changing wedges. And for those golfers looking to make more substantial improvements to their game, the TrackMan Combine provides a roadmap for the improvement journey and accurate, immediate feedback at all checkpoints / stops along the way. A Step by Step Guide, Acceleration Graph of Hips, Chest, Arms, and Clubhead in a Pro Golf Swing. The TrackMan Combine data collected from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world will be used to analyze his performance in hopes of better understanding where improvement(s) can be made. Of course touring pros are way better than everyone at all facets of the gamethat's why they're out making millions while a bunch of us have idiotic debates over the Internet. I went into a facility with Trackman launch monitors and have attached For as long as I can remember Vokey have been the top wedge brand in golf. TI Taylormade SIM Ti (15.4) Tensei CK Pro Blue 80X Mine isnt that much higher and i hit driver 275 yards. Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high any 7 iron data ? Launch- 11.28, 9.71 low, 12.87 high The new Vokey SM9 wedges has a focus on this exact shot by placing weight higher in the toe. The Fairway Woods Used by the Top 100 PGA Tour Pros, What Irons Do the Pros Use? I have the occasional outlier above 250 but thats rare. All too many golfers go to the course and hit every shot in the hope its the best shot theyve ever hit. The flight is reduced and the spin still remains. Driver 6 Iron Brooks Koepka Related Posts Erik Van Rooyen Driver Numbers Sei Young Justins family and friends also know him as a kindhearted young man who goes out of his way to give back. [/quote] My full swing with a driver was anout ewual to an average guys 9 iron turn. X-Forged UT (#3- 21)- DG X700 [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]8.5* Driver[/background][/size][/color] Clear editor. I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. Following 3 Trackman lessons and 4 Trackman practice sessions (and my own research) i have moved my swing path nearly 5 degree in to out. I bet your average golfer on your average course doesnt hit more than 160-175. Justin is committed to showing benevolence and grace to children in need, with the goal of bolstering their confidence, strengthening their determination, and allowing them great possibilities. But the guys with a great wedge and not great length still hack it on tour because they have what matters. I agree with you 100%. By comparison a 5-wood carries 235 yards and hit a 3 hybrid, which measures from 19 to 21, an average carry distance of 230 yards. Heat treatment This treatment is now applied to the impact areas of the face to increase durability. 19* SLDR Resuce // Speeder 9.3s A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Clubhead Speed - 125[/background][/size][/color] Learn to play your game, but keep pushing yourself where sensible and on the range, and youll enjoy your round more and start playing much more consistent golf. Tee and Approach Shots! Thomas is also only 1 of 6 players in PGA Tour history with 15 victories and 2 Majors before his 30th birthday, joining Jack Nicklaus, Johnny Miller, Tom Watson, Rory McIlroy and Tiger Woods. wrong? Artisan MT Grind (58) DG S400 My 8 iron 190yards 5iron 252 yards Pw is 150yrds And loft 56 at 120yrds Loft 110 yrds How do i control the power to less distance? [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Spin Rate - 2200 rpm[/background][/size][/color] Dear friend, do anyone here user Taylormade RSI 1 Irons. Dont think they ever release that stuff. The "you have to be a tour player to hit a long way" mentality is comical to say the least. That tells 5 0 obj Shaft: Aldila NV, 7-wood: Callaway Big Bertha It's good for some laughs. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer When looking at how the AMA performs, lets start with the drive. I can't seem to find them. As you can guess my improvement has now become dependent on driver efficiency and distance. If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. T 'enG~q/Om\#Q`{ HLRpC45`|NiG*"2agUTeu9d10S8xl?O`,`~ja~=j'(d~e?7UN+&iHPI=8NQQ={"K9R1d"3j$NJd[?@fUM)IxJ)Sn-bcVk7*"d9;&!0tB%=7$W&q&:L^q1|T]6k)SF What about the balls we use. I dont want my Vokeys to look different to the past designs, I barely want them to perform differently either as you want reliability around the greens. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ball Speed - 185 mph[/background][/size][/color] My total yardage for my 7 iron is 190, my ball speed is 119 mph. Shafts: Project X 125 6.5 (46), Project X 120 6.0 (52-60), Putter: Scotty Cameron 009 Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. <>stream [/quote] Justins interest in the military was inspired by some of the men and women in uniform he has met over the years. Optimizing a golfers distance with the driver (using their existing club speed) is an alternative way to effectively shortening a golf course. Angle of attack, club speed, path, club face. 716MB (5-PW)- DG S400 Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide (2021), link to What Driver is Most Used On the PGA Tour? Please have a look at this video about Smash Factor. But he picked up 25 yards for elevation, 25 for wind, and another 45 for extra roll. Most of my longer clubs only just creep above the 200 yd mark. The one at 3811 spin carried 8.3 yards further. Its unrealistic for most amateurs to break 100 on courses that share the aforementioned conditions, which is what a lot of the courses of today present. He defeated Will Zalatoris in a 3-hole playoff to clinch the title for the second time. TaylorMade Stealth+ 8 w/ PX Handcrafted Prototype EvenFlow Black 65 6.5, TaylorMade SIM ROCKET 14.5 w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 18 Tour Issue w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 3-19 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 4-22 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, Srixon ZX7 6-AW w/ Nippon Modus Tour125 Stiff TrackMan I know I hit the ball a long way though. Thats 95 extra yards, putting the actual distance of the drive under neutral conditions around 340-345. If I have a front pin with a hard green, I would go at it harder with the shorter club, maybe a 150 yard pitching wedge. They hit a 3-wood an average carry distance of 249 yds, a 5-wood 235 yds and 3-hybrids 230 yds. Youd be correct and that is why its always best to get fitted and discuss purchases with your pro. You've given me a good laugh for two days now. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. Because of the trends and correlations found in the TrackMan Combine data, it is possible to calculate the proximity to hole for nearly any handicap or approach distance with high confidence. I take most info in many sections of this board with a grain of salt. Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. Im a 9 handicap wanting to get into the low single digits. http://web.tigerwoods.com/onTour/seasonStatistics. SM5 53, 59 Trackman is pretty interesting, obviously path and angle of attack change depending on the shot your trying to shape. If a 50% greens in regulation (GIR) stat was desired for the AMA, then the approach shot would need to be approximately 140 yards. WebReport PP - Read online for free. Thats a course representative of the average golfer? [/quote] What is the speed? Book a Session for only R500 to get your Swing Analysis. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]8.5* Driver[/background][/size][/color] xV#+D7xEouj|_\ctk--[ne5a|N}x^. Vokey inspect all wedges individually but do recommend you look to change wedges after 75 rounds in order to keep the spin rate at its optimum. Grip: SuperStroke Traxion Flatso 1.0. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! How to gain more distance without swinging faster? [b]XHP 3-Deep (13)- 7.3X @ 43.5 For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. On average PGA pros hit a 3-iron a carry distance the distance from strike to point of ground impact of 217 yards. Im wondering if there are outliers here?. 1700 Broadway, Floor 29, New York, NY 10019, 2020 Justin Thomas. Made more swing improvement of late and starting to control my driver more. WebBut he picked up 25 yards for elevation, 25 for wind, and another 45 for extra roll. Do you have Average Female Amature driver swing speed? Or Fox Hollow in Baltimore? I am writing a dissertation at university and was wondering how you got all your data. [/quote] I also shot 86. Their delivery will be erratic and Vokey is a bladed wedge which offers little help in the forgiveness department. As we can again see from Brooks Koepkas yardage book above he has 5 different yardages listed for each of his specialist wedges which highlights just how much distance control the best golfers in the world can exert with their wedges. But the guys with a great wedge and not great length still hack it on tour because they have what matters. The AMA has an average club speed of 93.4 mph and an average total distance of 214 yards. 398 were here. show the real time hit - then after the shot replay it with the numbers/tracer. Its important to turn your body to get that extra speed. What is evident is you obviously don't play with good amateur players. Unless you're using the ball you play with every round, in the different conditions you play in, the numbers on the Trackman are null and void. [/quote] [/quote] Please limit the number of items and requests. Desired launch angle, spin rates change based on driver speed. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. I work in the industry and frequently play with low handicaps who tease me into playing longer yardage (they assume at 63 250 I bomb it) my home course is 7400 from the tips, and this frustratingly puts my score in the mid 90s. 46 to 54 degree heads have narrower and deeper grooves as these are used more in fuller shots with greater swing/ball speed. Does Trackman update this data each year? You dont need to be depressed your swing speed is high enough to play very good golf. Total Distance Efficiency 2.484. I think this is very interesting but misleading. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. 4 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X, Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x, Putter- Odyssey Vesa 12 center stroke lab shaft. the TrackMan numbers below. Not at all. Dustin Johnson can hit a putter 400 yards How about heading out to Wedgefield in Georgetown, SC? [/color] What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. Club Speed 113 mph Ball Speed 166 mph Attack Angle -1 deg Launch Angle 12 deg Spin Rate 2298 rpm This site is owned and operated by Add That Little Extra Limited, a private limited company whose registered office is in London, UK. It is not to suggest that a golfer should simply play a shorter course to shoot better scores, but that a golfer should play a course length that is appropriate. Once you except your limitations, you can get out and enjoy the game we LOVE instead of loathing it. The questions you ask are great questions, but unfortunately that data is not readily available. Total Distance Efficiency 2.484 What is evident is you obviously don't play with good amateur players. The 12 felt good but the 8 slid through the turf and cushioned the ball off the face. [b]Tiger Woods[/b] The numbers posted above are cool to me because you can see Tiger hits balls on the range like he does on the course. On the LPGA Tour the top pros hit their driver an average of 257.7 yards. I am disabled now and dont play at all but i had a spinal fusion and two rods put in my back when i was a teenager. Ball Speed- 176.38 average, 179.45 high I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. f[yZ3 /=KCYOSg~VN@ ae@.Xq@U$ Q\8H`/ 9Hj: .1xq I ultimately decided on the Tour AD DI 6X as a better choice. By Handicap, Age & Swingspeed, Should Your Driver Match Your Woods? No question - 100%. Spin Rate is on the high side, which also could indicate an off-center strike, and probably a negative attack angle both will shorten your distance. But i attribute most of that to playing with a best friend who was a scratch golfer and showed me theres no need to take longer than 2 hours to play 18 holes. I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. I have been working around that weakness by using shorter clubs off the tee but it leaves me with much longer second shots. Little higher launch, still low spin into the wind, and much easier to swing day in and day out. President & CEO, Boys & Girls Clubs of Kentuckiana, Brent Paladino All that strength comes from the lower body. I'm 6'3, in pretty good shape and played baseball my entire life. At just 29-years old, he can lay claim to 2 Major victories, a FedEx Cup Championship, PLAYERS Championship and a PGA TOUR Player of the Year Award. It was not until I got together with almost every other golfer played and realized most like as in 90% were just like me which was a work in progress. Is the dispersion linear, eg at 176 yards is it the same proportion at 88 feet or more? Fan Mail Justin Thomas Greater distancethe eternal quest for golfers. Imagine being on the practice ground with Justin Thomas or Nelly Korda week in week out. The AMA isnt going to be achieving this max theoretical 255 yard drive very often. To help however answer the question as well as we can the table below shows the varying distances some of the top pros, including Tiger Woods, Rory McIlroy and Dustin Johnson, are hitting their wedges, together with the degrees of loft their clubs are listed at. Have a look at his driver and 6 iron numbers below: Driver 6 [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] The strategy implemented to create 10 additional yards of carry could be from lack of knowledge regarding how far each club goes. The average for those golfers was 117 mph. They were measured with GPS. Mike Austins Secret Release Move to Multiply Your Clubhead Speed. STEAL THESE FROM ME! Through such initiatives as the Justin Thomas Youth of the Year Leadership Academy with the Boys & Girls Club of Kentuckiana, USA Cares and the First Tee, Justin is committed to showing compassion, displaying kindness, and making a difference in the world. Trackman Data on PGA Tour Averages Hit It Longer I appreciate your thoughts, great article. Check out the actual averages from the PGA Tour for the entire year: Now this is not to say that a tour player cant ramp it up another gear if they felt like showing off. Can trackman info like the dispersion plot data be projected over a course layout? Their experiences, time away from family, and willingness to sacrifice their lives for our freedom has truly made an impact on Justin. The 56 to 62 grooves are wider and shallower for chipping and lob shots. WebSee how The Honda Classic Justin Thomas Trackman numbers look https://blog.trackmangolf.com/justin-thomas-trackman-numbers/ The "you have to be a tour player to hit a long way" mentality is comical to say the least. I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. You cannot paste images directly. [/quote] endobj It makes the head look a little rounder, but Vokey has done a great job of disguising this weight distribution at address. 6 0 obj 100% of all funds raised with be used to make a constructive and quality impact for a deserving child, family or charity. Jon Rahm - TrackMan Numbers - TrackMan Golf Finally, course strategy is an improvement that can be made without having to change anything relating to the swing, technique, or other physical items. Cobra Aerospeed 3W Kai'Li White I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. That smash factor surprises me a bit. This put him near the bottom of the pack. While the length of the course is an important factor in scoring, more so is the challenging greens and required approach shots. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364414933' post='6708795'] I originally tried the 12 bounce in the 52 degree but I could feel the club stuttering in the turf at impact. But he does not average those. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer And that is for the simple reason that pros will hit all manner of a variety of different shots with their irons, especially for their approach shots, and as such, they will hit the same iron a variety of different distances. http://www.rotaryswing.com/golf-instruction/golfequipment/golf-launch-monitor.php, Short hitter compared to the average WRXer. I also play at a local par 3 course which holds the junior par 3 championship and I have shot 7 under around the par 3 course. [/quote] Spin Rate 2,645.8 [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] Once again Vokey customise their wedges even in the grooves. I cant say I noticed the lower ball flight but this is something that Titleist have worked on gradually for the last few generations. Don't doubt the ability of some people to produce similar numbers to the pros. It's not the length that makes a pro. Ive hit greens from 210 out with a 20 degree hybrid. While these yardages will give you a general guide as to how far pros hit their wedges it is important to remember how particular all the pros are about these clubs especially. I figured that out years ago based on hole distance and yardage to the flag after my tee shot. I don't measure my driver distance. Hi I have always had an out to in swing until recent. I think the difference is practice, practice and more practice. WebThis is Justin Thomas TrackMan Numbers How does yours Compare? The longest player hits it 320 yards That's what I think. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. I don't play professional golf. In the lower lofted wedges (46-52) at address the club sits squarer, the leading edge looks to be straighter and less rounded at the top of the toe. I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. You can check the combine driver stats here: https://mytrackman.com/#combine. In other words the distance from where they hit the ball to the point of impact on the ground. Its important to know what grass you play, what course you play (be it links or parkland) and how you deliver the club at impact (steep or shallow). Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. My teachers are always trying to get me to change my swing to generate club head speed, but this consistently leaves me frustrated and physically sore. get up and down 3 out of the 5 times you miss the green makes all the difference. I have also never heard a beginner or poorer striker of the golf ball say I need to lower my ball flight which is what these are said to do. Almost every post I read on the internet the guys say they are swinging 125 mph. In my opinion if your long game level is around hcap 0 you should score 76-80 . The plan is to include this type of information within TrackMan University in the future, but that is likely many months away at this point. Please include a self-addressed envelope with prepaid postage for return. Top 100 PGA Tour Player Analysis, What Clubs Do LPGA players use? Jordan Spieth whats in the bag accurate as of the Presidents Cup. Everyone has one. Titleist fitting last summer at my home course. 2 were over 320. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] Smash Factor 1.475 TEST INFO TOTAL SCORE Not at all. do Trackman numbers mean? Understanding golf launch monitor results I'm BARELY 250 off the tee, but I will mop the floor with most from 125 in To me, working on improving distance happens only after theyve advanced beyond the AMA category. I would recommend that you go visit a TrackMan certified coach, he/she will be able to help you with your club speed. Firstly there is really no need to play an 8 iron that long, secondly why on earth would you play nothing but trap draws especially with short iron My problem is the amount of power i have and need to work on half wings. That's what I think. I think those numbers are a little high. And this is about DJs average big drive when he swings harder, at around 125 mph. Just ask Corey Pavin, Mark Wilson, Mike Weir, Fred Funk. Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high There is no age or nationality restriction for the AMA. These high-level numbers of course dont always tell the whole story as the pros like us are faced with an infinite variety of golf shots which dont always mean they are hitting each club as far as they possibly can for every shot. What Irons Do the Pros Use? Close suggestions Search Search Search Search You can follow GolfWRX on Twitter @GolfWRX, Facebook and Instagram. WebIn 2018, Justin was just the 21st player to ever reach #1 in the Official World Golf Rankings following his WGC win in Memphis. #:>PC"ljTTZ!@8[+D py"4]F: }X@`*0gIiF1|fv3cp{c?9EkD!j> I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. The LDA guys can't hang with the short games and are wildly sporadic with their tee shots, hence why they get multiple tries. Especially when they was no other golfers in sight. Ever found a yardage you like? #TeamTrackMan Odyssey Metal X Milled #1. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. How to Hit Massive Drives! I still feel these are better players clubs for 15 handicappers or below as they are bladed heads which require you to deliver the club consistently and strike the centre of the face. Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Black 6 X, 3-wood: TaylorMade Stealth 2 Plus (15 degrees @ 14) Hitting long irons or hybrids into all of the par 4s does not set the AMA up for an enjoyable day on the golf course. The SM9s are an evolution of the Vokeys but not a drastic change, youll notice a difference between these and the SM6s but only a subtle change from the SM8s. we never play for money. Bilan, I think you should rub one out before you get to first tee box. That means the par 4s would average 395 yards. Length is nothing. Absolutely awesome numbers though. TSi2 18, VTS Silver 8xMizuno MP Fli Hi 21, Recoil 110MP-20 MMC 5-P,DG X100SM850F, 54S, 58MPXGCloser Gen 2Tour BX. Dont think they ever release that stuff. beginer level female golfer how to to benefit ths..is this correct this tracker.. Love all of this data and seeing exactly what the correlation is between the data and player performance! Yes, typically very short drivers of the ball are better iron players or wedge players. Assuming however the pros are hitting standard lofted pitching, gap, sand and lob wedges we found the following stock distances for how far the pros hit them. [/quote] The SMs have been nurtured and feel just beautiful at impact, the GW is super consistent with full shots and the chip and run. Please have a look at the TrackMan locator at this link; https://mytrackman.com/public/locator, Kind regards Niklas Bergdahl Support Manager. also his AoD on the stinger. Justin Thomas I know I hit the ball a long way though. That's what I think. Trackman stats obviously don't mean that much either. I actually feel I get more out irons than I do the woods. All rights reserved, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Charles-Lambert-video-2.mp4, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Justin-Thomas-2.mp4, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/20220908_125734.mp4. I take most info in many sections of this board with a grain of salt. This is something Butch Harmon has been trying to get Danielle Kang to do for a few years because it simplifies the shot and you can go at the flag more. The challenge is, improving your distance is a slow and arduous process. He is giving up 30 yards of total distance off the tee, which makes his approach shots more difficult. Yes! Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. Driver: Cobra Amp Cell Pro (8.5 degrees) There are three finishes available in SM9: Tour Chrome (matte), Brushed Steel (shiny) and Jet Black (matte). :-). For example for a 170 yard shot into the green a quick glance at his iron yardages shows he could decide to play either a three-quarter 8-iron or try to hit a 9-iron as far as he can his max distance for that club. bT^GCUbIRT97U]"p:JJL)K^B"qPLCw4jw[ ))~u#-n MQ\~x/1c_kQ&mK Hamish777, March 26, 2013 in WRX Club Techs. I should be getting more distance on this club head speed right? ;9#I 'S2G4Mi]JE I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. Once AMA understands the likely outcomes for various shots, then he can most effectively implement course strategy for the benefit of improving his golf performance. Because winning money, titles, and shooting low scores doesnt involve all that much power hitting, especially with the irons. Lj\gUk':Q9d P\Ko?#sU;:MRk;'FTz![]wJQRL/"&Xp]q%F"S4y_fY;<5PemA,YosVrs>l6:cc

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