If your crew-member record is SPOTLESS, your random screening should be much much less. Its fine. Im not very worried about KCM going bye bye. Flight attendants do not have as much to loose as a pilot. A: No. Crewmembers may request a new or replacement KCM barcode card from their airline management. How many pounds of illegal drugs have TSA agents detected and confiscated since their inception? Say hello to people and ask them how they are doing. The plane wont be leaving without me as long as I inform schedule that Im in the airport. The more international travelers know about what to expect, the easier and quicker the process becomes. The transportation of such items is restricted and governed by the Civil Aviation Regulations. 0000008870 00000 n "Y'all fucked around and found out". Yesterday when I went through TSA pre-check, i beeped walking through the detector even though I had nothing in my pockets or that I was wearing that should have beeped Im a flight attendant and Ive been random 18 times out of 22 since I started counting in January. Security is an illusion there is no reason to subject those flying the airplane to TSA checks. Unfortunately, too many folks don't realize or even care that flight attendants are safety professionals. If they increased the requirements - say you have to have a 2 year degree -- an EMT license, etc. Crewmembers who do not have a KCM barcode card, have a worn/unreadable barcode card, or have not completed the registration process will be referred to the passenger screening checkpoint for entry into the airport sterile area. And as you put it yourself, FAs are 'impoverished'. I then thank them. 0000045258 00000 n Blame is on BOTH sides of the door. Agree that the problem stems from flight attendants being able to use this as well as pilots. Q:How is the KCM barcode card used? So, according to you, FAs need to go through security because of prohibited items and drugs. It was thought up and the Airline pilots Union and not he Flight attendants union. I don't know if a single checkpoint which excorts you directly to screening. Many common items found in your household can be considered dangerous goods for the purpose of air transport. HAAAA!!! Considering 90% of guns are not even found when the TSA is tested by other government agencies, I'm curious how they even manage to find guns or drugs on crewmembers. TSA has implemented a standardized response from the agency for KCM suspensions and removals rather than relying on agency field operations to implement such measures. According to Aero Crew News, in 2023 the Known Crewmember Program (KCM) will be replaced by a new program branded as Expedited Crew Access (ECA). Real professional comment on your part. Who is to say they can't hand off drugs or weapons. You don't like your job and you feel so miserable at it. Just give us our own lane already. Q: What should I do if I encounter a TSA screening officer who does not seem to be applying the KCM requirements correctly? This could help to discourage any would-be smugglers. I would propose that any crew member intentionally engaging in this activity, once caught and verified, be terminated immediately and banned from any job in transport, prosecuted and given an exhorbitant fine, say $100,000. lost an engine, no hydraulics, a decompression, or worse) onboard your next flight and YOU need the assistance of a Flight Attendant to save your life or that of a loved one! and when people are searched - which IS part of the security screening process - then there is a legitimate NECESSITY to escalate something that is illegally found to the appropriate law enforcement authorities. endstream endobj 54 0 obj <>/Metadata 9 0 R/Pages 8 0 R/PageLayout/OneColumn/StructTreeRoot 11 0 R/Type/Catalog/Lang( E N - U S)>> endobj 55 0 obj <>/ColorSpace<>/Font<>/ExtGState<>>>/Type/Page>> endobj 56 0 obj <> endobj 57 0 obj <> endobj 58 0 obj <> endobj 59 0 obj [/Indexed/DeviceRGB 16 77 0 R] endobj 60 0 obj <> endobj 61 0 obj <>stream You seem to have a rather myopic view of the situation. Also when is the last time you saw a TSA agent screened when going through a checkpoint . You really need to understand a few basics of airline travel. ..and do what with the flight attendants? Crew are human. The folks that said lets punish those that break the rules are the only ones that have common sense. Anyway, Im curious to see what the new procedure looks like. It is incorporated for crewmembers protection and to ensure the integrity of the system. Do not go through KCM. Get ready for crew members to be cutting in front of you everywhere ! We are talking CLASS ACTION lawsuits for piss-poor treatment of crew. Airport employees (not only flight crew) who drive & park in the employee lot are able to access the secure side of the airport without going through any security. Wasting TSA time and resources that should be used with someone else. Work closely with your union or become a rep to improve work rules and pay at your airline to make respecting your job more appealing. We are required to sign in at latest 1 hr before departure. Are they really catching crew members with drugs? Unfortunately, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has found circumstances where there have been egregious violations of the KCM requirements. Instead of punishing Flight Attendants (who seem to be blamed for SO MUCH & historically are never at fault - Ive done the deep dive research), why dont we put the emphasis on the truly broken system, the TSA - aka. Its simply aggravation when you have to wait on a slow ass employee bus then drag your bag to security and here an offer say You wanna try your luck with a dumb ass grin on their face. A:Authorized crewmembers traveling with a printed boarding pass or seat request card are subject to the TSA Secure Flight (SF) vetting system the same as passengers. We do get front of the line access. How many pilots have been caught smuggling? So in reality anyone who come into the airlines as an employee. There are a number of products which have entry or exit limitations in Spain from outside the European Union, Switzerland, Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein. Is air travel going to get even MORE expensive? They will interfere with Clear, TSA Pre and just squeeze in again and create even more frustration, plus they dont pay for TSA checks but PAX do. Crew Member responsibilities include assisting customers as needed, answering questions, and completing daily tasks. Shoot we regularly have people with guns on the aircraft, air marshals, Leos and ffdos and if one of them snapped one day they could certainly do harm. Im so tired of the majority of us being punished because of the few idiots that break the rules or commit crimes. It is only there to prevent security threats to aviation, originally hijacking then terrorist attacks. And TSA doesn't enforce mask mandates anymore, and when they did it was because they had to follow the directive of The And TSA doesn't enforce mask mandates anymore, and when they did it was because they had to follow the directive of The federal government. I do agree that some Flight Attendants have ruined it a lot by doing wrong but if they cancel the program and don't provide an alternative you'll see the number of Flight Attendants dropping drastically because none of us would go stand for 3-4 hours in TSA and then at the gate without getting paid. I get paid by the hour, not per passenger. Maybe the airlines should consider Spandex! axes, hatchets or similar. Only authorized crewmembers approved by the KCM system may enter the airport sterile area through a KCM access point. I thought you were a former twitter employee, not an airline pilot. So to clarify, a flight attendant like a pilot is required to do a strenuous background check. So they pick on us instead. If you really think flying is dangerous because of 9/11 then I would say there are a million other things besides that one and this is an unnecessary power grab by a government agency. You ruined this for yourselves. AFA International | Full screening. An automated enhancement to random screening/USP has been enabled in the KCM system. Random screening or Unpredictable Screening Procedures (USP) is built into the system as a check and balance to ensure the integrity of the KCM program. Most airports have crew only lines and if they dont were allowed to walk to front of line while in uniform. With an increase in travelers using these checkpoints to smuggle stuff onto planes, it seems that its going to be reconsidered. TSA might not be perfect but I would rather have them then not. Check it out its in the Pilot Wives Page or on KrewRestKaren. The protection from unwarranted searching isn't about protecting people carrying contraband. That's right. I think they should give a hefty fine and take away the privilege from the individual who couldnt follow the rules. * link https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/06/02/411423341/head-of-tsa-reassigned-after-tests-reveal-security-failures, you tsa guys are cluelessspend a day in ben gurion airport (TLV) and learn what it takes to prevent a 9-11. Where they can't, or don't, expand, everyone's delays will get worse. SIDA badge holder to carry it into the sterile area then give to the FA for delivery - many SIDA badge holders make less than FAs with easy entry into a position as long as they have a clean-ish background. And not using the KCM line. Any employee, even a pilot, could be enlisted to smuggle a weapon into the secure area to be passed to someone else. Yes, you generally go to a crew line or the front of the regular line or a separate crew security line, but you Always go the the scanner as does your luggage. I'll bet you're very good at stacking pillows and blankets around something you'll never find. I know that this isn't going to be a popular suggestion, but let take the flight attendants out of the program and let the pilots have the program. I guarantee if you're a flight attendant reading this you've said "oF cOuRsE I diD!" As a paying subscriber of CLEAR & TSAPre, I would welcome a dedicated crew/employee line for those employees that are working. In my opinion and observations, many of the violations that have occurred in recent years have been new flight attendants (at a entry level pay scale) that have little to lose by sneaking things through KCM. Then there are the handful who do things they shouldn't do, that are making it a lot harder for everyone else. I'm also a flight attendant and I don't know about that since it looks like you're happy with arriving an extra couple hours even before your report time at the gate. Crewmembers can only view their previous 30 days of KCM usage. We did it Joe! This is not a U.S. government site. Worrying about wait times and passenger volume is what our management is for. Crewmembers may not bring pets or pet carriers through the KCM access point. Why is all the blame put on flight attendants? Interesting viewpoint, except for those people who never have to pass through security could easily pass said product off to said pilot, attendant, or anyone with access to the plane storage cargo. Report: TSA Ending Known Crewmember Program In 2023, My take on TSA Known Crewmember Program changes, How To Check TSA PreCheck Hours & Availability, Yuck: TSA Finds Gun Hidden In Raw Chicken, Please view our advertising policy page for additional details about our partners, On the one hand, I do think its time that some changes are made to the Known Crewmember Program, purely based on the number of people who have abused it, On the other hand, fully screening pilots and flight attendants will take up more TSA resources and could lead to longer lines at security; furthermore, the TSA isnt actually very good at finding hidden objects, At least in the case of pilots, I think screening is kind of unnecessary, since theyre flying the plane, and if they wanted to do something, Ultimately I also get the argument that the TSA isnt there to stop drugs, but rather to stop weapons; that being said, if someone is smuggling kilos of cocaine and fentanyl, getting that off the streets (or out of the skies) doesnt seem like a bad thing. There are 24,000 flight attendants just at my airline. believe it or not your not nearly as important as you would like to think you are. As a flight attendant KCM is a privilege most of us highly respect with air travel at an all time high to be sent thru regular screening will cause delays and many frustrations If you disagree, go get your Airline Pilot Certificate and 1500 hours of flight time and compare that with the job requirements to become a flight attendant, and then tell me who is more likely to risk their career at a KCM checkpoint. Youre right though, losing KCM is the least of their problems; however, Full disclosure- Im a flight attendant, and its frustrating to lose this privilege because of crew members who dont follow the rules. And, while doom and gloom regarding the future might be reality, there is a good chance that it will be nowhere near as bad as some try to paint it. Stay in your uniform you wont have that problem. Are allowed Liquids, Aerosols and Gels (LAGs) and other exemptions applicable to uniformed flight crewmembers atTSA PreCheck. Are you mad that they aren't letting people smuggle drugs thru security? The way I type indicates that I'm a bum and have a busted vehicle? Imagine having to go through security and adding extra unpaid time to your job every time you went to work. Flight attendants should have a probationary period and then allowed in as well. It is unfortunate that in 2023, the program may no longer exist for some. Your anger and frustration brings me joy. So, what is even closer scrutiny Crewmembers are subject to a federal background check and fingerprinting as a result of 9/11. Therefore air passengers are advised not to carry with them such locally made power bank during the journey. I haven't been randomed by TSA, ever! They're the offenders over and over. The last incident of the FA caught smuggling fentanyl in SF because they got the random at KCM and got caught at the security checkpoint was the final nail in the coffin for KCM. I show up clean shaven, fresh haircut, pressed uniform and a smile. Carriage of another individual's property through the KCM portal to circumvent screening is prohibited. That volume won't come back to the regular checkpoints. Visit the Consumer Product Safety Commission's website for more information on what items might be subject to a recall. Some times 10 or 15 TSA screeners at the same time. Alcoholic beverages, illegal drugs, flammable liquids, explosives, and dangerous chemicals will not be returned. And no youre not getting a credit. When it was expanded to include flight attendants, we almost immediately saw issues developing. Also, many large airports have crew and employee security checkpoints that are currently in the secure area that are accessible by employee shuttle buses. Why even bother with KCM? All other individuals (to include spouses, dependents, minor children, etc.) b. https://www.afacwa.org/setting_record_straight_kcm_rumors?fbclid=IwAR2Jx6AzwBq_JTj471QFrQZST-hQzQNXJEa26tUuXbfKvLQLc_UNFuWuNzc. Weren't we all background checked by FBI and other Federal Agencies to be issued this ID ? Are you mad that they didn't let them go? Your password can't be one that you've used previously. Put 10 crew members in a line, 8 will get random. The difference between prohibited and restricted goods when posting parcels. I'm a TSA officer and I'm glad KCM is ending. When it was in this form, there were virtually no problems. The SF system randomly selects individuals to undergo selectee screening and will identify the printed boarding pass or seat request card with a SSSS. They just walk all the way inside the secured area without being challenged or ID/Badge checked. They should just permanently ban the violators from KCM. If you are an Employee or an Administrator (DER) please enter the information below to have a password reset emailed to you. Im a F/A. The TSA screening is NOT there to catch drug smugglers. If I'm not trusted, then fine. Since they have random and say catch someone doing something illegal make that individual go through the whole security process instead of punishing all of us? Is the little baby upset that he can't go thru KCM cause his coworkers got busted smuggling drugs? Crewmembers may request a new or replacement KCM barcode card from their airline management. 2. Why, because it would require manpower that TSA is unwilling/unable to hire. Special use airspace (SUA) consists of that airspace wherein activities must be confined because of their nature, or wherein limitations are imposed upon aircraft operations that are not a part of those activities, or both. After all, theres big money in smuggling drugs, and perhaps some newly minted flight attendants dont feel like they have that much to lose career-wise. Keep dreaming. KCM is Accessible Only for "Active" Crewmembers. Wade through passengers and bags if you need to. I guarantee if you're a flight attendant reading this you've said "oF cOuRsE I diD!" I was next and was told I need further screening tho I did not ring told FA cannot be further screened so I have to be screened??? KCM is beneficial when not abused. You idiots change the security process based on whether or not crew have a certain shirt on. Learn more. One who will force change for the better. (I hear at home On the one hand, I've spent the last 16 years+ working for TSA. Now, when TSA asks, I just say Im not playing Your Game of going thru two lines, this is all eyewash anyway. Crewmembers who do not have a KCM barcode card, have a worn/unreadable barcode card, or have not completed the registration process will be referred to the passenger screening checkpoint for entry into the airport sterile area. As for the flight attendant vs. pilot issue, the justification for including flight attendants was always that there simply was not A large part of the problem was allowing crew members - pilots or flight attendants - to use KCM when off duty with the exception of going immediately taccess o/from their base as a commuter. Security is fine as long as they make it quick for working crew membersthere isn't a pilot or flight attendant anywhere in the world who would be willing to wake-up 3 to 4 hours early on their already too short layovers. Smuggling drugs or trying to get a weapon through security should be punishable to the people doing it. A joke. Trust me, they will do something about KCM.and it will include all working crew members. If pilots were running a little late for whatever reason, the flight attendants would still be required to be there to board passengers so as not to be faulted with a delay in the boarding process. Punish those that broke the rule. The UK is committed to doing that as well, including eliminating the liquids rule. Why not just revoke the flight attendants privileges and keep KCM for pilots? Now its being taken away. As a result of having the FAA certificate, they are allowed to use the KCM lines. If there is to be no special consideration for a FA then there should be none for pilots. After-all, in an emergency at 35,000-feet, calling 911 isn't going to save youbut the flight attendants just might? /5FR_+`aj` H xX ORD uses outdated screening methods that are so medieval, I am guessing someone up top is pocketing government funding in lieu of updating their screening methods at this locale. Our world has changed. H\Pn >t7i4)v} 'CZ rf ,s6^`D\5u`NzVq"p?E __C] Nope, AFA, was also involved in the lobbying for KCM, all crew members or none. Emirates restricts all smart balance wheels (with or without lithium batteries removed) to be transported as checked-in or carry-on luggage. Zero??? Uh huh. It's not my business what a person freely chooses to put in their own bodynor is it government's business. There are multiple reports of pilots being busted with weapons. Push through to the front each and every time you clear TSA. At least flight attendants have to meet some kind of standards and have a lot to lose. In your feeble mind, do you really think the TSA guy sitting there makes the rules? 2023 KNOWN CREWMEMBER. In my opinion and observations, many of the violations that have As a result of having the FAA certificate, they are allowed to use the KCM lines. You, Mr "peepee" sound as though you already have a preconceived notion about flight attendants and are lumping us all together. The simple reality is that pilots have FAR more to lose than flight attendants if they risk their career at a KCM checkpoint, and therefore they deserve a higher level of trust. As a frequent flyer Ive received far more attitude from FAs them I ever have from TSA. For years, pilots and flight attendants havent had to regularly go through security, thanks to the Known Crewmember Program. The flight attendants are required to be there before the rest of the crew because they are the ones needed to board passengers. This enhanced identity-verification and employment-confirmation system for airline pilots will make airport checkpoint screening more efficient for all who depend on air transportation by removing airline pilots from passenger screening lines. Therefore, we recommend that all Flight Attendants abide by the following rules to protect your ability to participate in the Known Crewmember program: As a reminder, KCM is accessible only for "active" crewmembers. Lets not forget is was started by ALPA for pilots. I'm a Flight Attendant for a major US Carrier and I've known of a few that have had privileges suspended for a year and of one who had her privileges permanently revoked. So, like with just about everything else good, a few ruin it for the majority. Zr 6+D`CWqkvqdG;\x\pxuS]\`IR]C}0MH7nVi V^VOHD \/q,B"A ?#a),O 6o_?y \Q:@ av The people being caught with contraband are both flight attendants and pilots. It's the easiest post. Whats the data? Q:Difficulties with KCM Account Activation or Barcode Card Registration? Prior to the Known Crewmember program and their dedicated lines, it was not uncommon to spend 10-15 minutes being delayed as crew after crew cut in line to be screened before the regular users. Enter your email address here and we will send you an email with your username and instructions on how to change your password. (a handful of others choose to use this out-dated screening method from time to time because they STILL consider it to be an accepted method of secondary screening!!!) Things have gotten so bad, I am ready for a fight. Too bad a few more here can't grasp the insight you just provided for them. The sense of entitlement from flight attendants and especially pilots is wild. You have a nice day. There's always going to be a few who thwart the rules and get busted. Dont worry though, youll be back groping children in no time. TSOs are responsible for screening passengers and their carry- I don't really care if literally the whole crew, all my fellow passengers, and TSA are all smuggling drugs on every flight so long as I get where I'm headed. Dangerous Goods are also known as restricted articles, hazardous materials and dangerous cargo. On the one hand, I've spent the last 16 years+ working for TSA. They may not be used on board . A lot of money from pilot dues was spent by the Air Line Pilots Association to help get the Known Crew Member program going. Please follow TSA instructions and do not attempt to resolve the issue with transportation security officers, as they are unable to rectify system failures or denials. As for the argument about crew members mucking up the pre-check line, the way immigration lines are done should be the standard: there is always a dedicated crew line which pre-check users can use if there are no crew members. We KCM should be 100% allowed for pilots there is a MASSIVE difference in career terms and pay between pilots and FAs. At most: I would like to be seen as a whistle blower. Spoken like a true dummy. There won't be any after its gone. You also are aware that pilots have had their fair share of violations with kcm too, right? I don't really care if literally the whole crew, all my fellow passengers, and TSA are all smuggling drugs on every flight so long as I get where I'm headed. Known Crewmember Sign Up Username Password Password Requirements: Your password must contain at least 15 characters. Youre a bunch of loser clowns. Sadly people will always try and take advantage of a situation. If there is to be no special consideration for a FA then there should be none for pilots. Once registered, you may begin using the barcode card at any active KCM access point. What an absolute joke that anyone thinks there is any benefit at all to safety to screen pilots at TSA checkpoints. Upon returning to work, it is recommended that the crewmember contact their airline management or crew records department to see if your KCM file has been reactivated. It is possible, however, that a crewmember may be selected for random screening. Dangerous Goods are items that may endanger the safety of an aircraft or persons on board the aircraft. I don't think any pilot would try to bring a family member through KCM when they understand that it just doesn't work that way. Other Airline Flight Attendants have told me that some of their colleagues have been terminated for violating KCM policies. This will ensure your ability to use the KCM system again. But this could possibly delay flights guess we'll see. Please stop blaming flight attendants! I'm a 44 year flight attendant. The crew members are then asked to complete a written report that records all details of the flight. Known Crew Members (KCM) Lanes KCM ties airline employee databases together in a seamless way and enables Transportation Security Administration (TSA) security officers to positively verify the identity and employment status of crew members.

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